Josie and the Pussycats Denounced for Profanity! | THE FAKING OF Podcast with Nick DiRamio

Josie and the Pussycats Denounced for Profanity! | THE FAKING OF Podcast with Nick DiRamio

Welcome to the inaugural episode of The Faking Of! This week we are diving into the cult classic Josie and the Pussycats, a film LOOSELY based on the Archie Comic series. Nick DiRamio and his friend Jenny go behind the scenes from the initial concept all the way to the premiere of the movie with a little improv sprinkled in. They go deep into the satirical jokes of the movie, such as the excessive product placement, the “profanity” that separated the movie from the Archie comics, the film’s perception, and much more!

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- Hello, and welcome to "The Faking Of." The podcast where we fake our way through the behind the scenes stories of your favorite movies and favorite-to-hate movies. I'm your host, Nick DiRamio, the filmmaker and improv coach extraordinaire, who talks us through the tale. And I have with me a very exciting guest that I am super excited to bring on for a movie that has been a huge part of both of our lives, it sounds like. So without further ado, let me introduce Ms. Jennay Say Qua.

- Qua, Qua. Yo.

- Hi, thank you so much for being here. Jennay is both an artist and an extraordinary person and all around amazing close friend that I've known since our golden years in college at NYU.

- Yes, sir.

- And actually, we have gone through this process before and talked about a previous movie. But this is a new episode ready for the ears of the public. And we're talking about what movie, Jennay?

- We are doing "Josie and the Pussycats," if you couldn't tell by our beautiful cat ears that we're wearing.

- Yes, if you're catching the video version of this podcast, then we have the ears on because otherwise, you don't know that we are the punk rock prom queen, brown paper magazine. These songs are iconic. So Jennay, we're gonna take this movie through like the initial concept all the way to a premiere with some mostly true facts and trivia from the IMDb page. So it all starts with a pitch. And this movie is based on "Josie and the Pussycats," which are comic book characters from the like Archie Comics world. So let's say that I'm a movie producer, you work at "Hanna-Barbera" comics or whatever, and you get on the elevator with me and you have 30 seconds. You have 30 seconds to convince me that we should make a movie based on this property. Are you ready? 'Cause you don't have much time to prepare.

- Woo-hoo.

- Five, four, three, two. Ding! Elevator doors close.

- Have you ever seen a three punk rock chicks that are ready to just express themselves and fight the man in song and dance? Because I have, it's "Josie and the Pussycats."

- Oh yeah, some kind of old, I don't know, is that like the Spice Girls? We've already done that.

- It's not like the Spice Girls. They...

- Oh, my floor is coming up in two seconds, so-

- Yeah. I know, I'm like, "Oh, shit, they're not gonna get produced." I feel like the way that they did get produced was through Archie. They were never had to pitch alone.

- So you think that because there was some recognition from the Archie Comics, this was like

- Right.

- already gonna be sort of a success.

- They pulled them up. Back in the back in the '50s or whenever they're made. And then for this movie specifically, I heard that they were like trying to play off the popularity of Green Day and Blink-182, but turn that into like the girl's version of it.

- I see. 'Cause were you aware that this was based on a comic book when you first saw the movie? Came out in April 11th, 2001.

- I had no idea.

- So I would have been 10. What about you?

- Yes, same.

- So, yeah, I remember like, there's even a joke at one point, like the character breaks the fourth wall played by Missi Pyle. She's like, "I'm here 'cause I was

- Yeah.

- in the comic book," and they're like, "What?" She goes, "ya."

- I think that's where I learned there was a comic book 'cause like in the movie itself.

- Me too. And then weirdly like promos from like Cartoon Network would sometimes show like "Josie and the Pussycats," the old cartoon. And I was like,

- Right.

- "Oh, I get it." So...

- I never watched the cartoon. I think I do remember those Cartoon Network things.

- I never saw the-

- It didn't capture me.

- Me either, I never saw the cartoon either, but when I was searching for this movie to stream yesterday, there were like 100 "Josie and the Pussycats" cartoon movies. Like "Josie and the Pussycats Go to Space" and I was like, "I would love to see it." So I'm very intrigued.

- Yes, it's revitalized.

- I wanna know all of that, but I feel like one of the main defining things of this movie that caught my attention even at a young age was like how they kind of used product placement to a satirical level. Did you notice that?

- Yeah, it reminded me of "The Truman Show" kind of the way they did it.

- Oh yeah, 'cause "The Truman Show"... But those were all fictional brands, they were like, "and here

- Right.

- is the Cuisinart Mezzo Master."

- Yes. This was like that, only it was real. Which was what was even more like crazy and tongue in cheek about it. At the end of the day, it was just like, "Wow, like we're making fun of this, but you can actually see it happening, like playing out in front of you, IRL."

- Yeah, for those who haven't seen the movie, it's the story of Josie and the Pussycats' band, where they get discovered by a record label with like secret subliminal messages in putting those into the music of pop stars, to like control the masses and make teens buy whatever.

- Yes, to make you buy things.

- Exactly. So like throughout the movie, there's so many logos and products. Can you guess Jennay? I have the answer from the IMDb page. Can you guess how many brands there were approximately throughout the movie?

- Let me do a quick run through in my brain

- It's sort of like

- of everything that I saw

- a guessing the jelly beans in a jar type of moment.

- Right, it is. I wanna say, "Oh, I feel like it's higher than 78, but it's lower than 400." Let's go like 297.

- Alrighty. That's your answer?

- Now I feel like it's too low, so-

- Do you want me to give you a warmer or colder?

- Ooh, sure, if we wanna play it like that. No, it's like, "Just let me accept my fate."

- I'll give you one hint, so you can make one more guess.

- Okay, okay, okay, okay.

- Lower.

- Oh. So I was gonna be wrong altogether. Okay, well then, sheesh. How about 180?

- Okay, let's lock it in. The answer is approximately 73 individual logos throughout the movie. So your first, your lowest guess was closest, 78.

- Wow.

- It's easy to overestimate things like that though, it's like, "How are you..." Like I remember when I first saw this movie as a kid, I didn't even really notice all of the brands until my dad like pointed it out, that it was like, meant to be a joke because in real life, I'm used to seeing logos everywhere. So when it showed like people at the mall, and then they're like talking down at the basement of the mall and you just see mtv.com plastered between them. It's like framed intentionally into each shot, so that it's clearly meant to be like calling attention to itself and being like, "This is also an ad."

- Yes, and I love their hotel rooms. I feel like that was when it's like comes to its full fruition of the insanity when it's like, "wow." Each individual hotel room is like a theme of a brand.

- Yeah, which rooms from the hotel standout in your memory?

- Well, obviously, McDonald's one, 'cause it's like one of the most ridiculous scenes in the whole movie.

- Oh my God. If you're happy and you know it clap your hands. Yes. So a whistleblower in the movie is trying to warn Josie and the bandmates of the nefarious record label. And they write a message on the mirror in lipsticks saying, "Beware of the music." And Tara Reid's character who is sort of the ditsy airhead sees it. And she just draws like a heart and a smiling face on the letters. And it's the most iconic thing. That was the first movie I've ever seen Tara Reid in and I was like, "I'm obsessed with her."

- Same. So good. She plays that character so well. It's like born to be it. And then she was actually, I don't know the timeline of it, but her and Carson Daly, he's in it for a brief second as himself. They ended up dating in real life and it may or may not have been before or after, I don't know how that was written in.

- I actually have the answer from the IMDb page. They met on set during his cameo right here.

- Oh, so they met then.

- And I actually thought that was... They met on set shooting "Josie and the Pussycats" and started dating for a period of time after that. That's why it was funny the movie when he was like, "I got the blonde one," and he like instantly goes after her.

- My God, so disturbing-

- That was one of my favorite scenes. Actually, to think about it, once I was watching it and I was like, "They're gonna beat them to death with a bat." I was like, "This is terrible."

- I'm laughing, but I don't mean to be. It's nervous.

- And there was one other joke that I feel like didn't age well, I'm trying to remember exactly. There was one other-

- Oh, I remember the Matt Damon, it was during that exact moment where she was like, "I would never date you, Carson." And then she's holding like a cardboard cutout of Matt Damon and she's like, "Like you on the other hand." It's like the exact wrong time

- Yes.

- to be watching that.

- That was definitely canceled. Yeah, I was like, "It's so funny how fickle pop culture is." Okay, so we also like to do,

- It's true.

- as part of making these movies, what do you think the budget of this movie was?

- Ooh, okay. Now I'm like, "Maybe I should go with my lowest guess." It has to be more than the last movie that we talked about, "Nerve." I feel like it was more than that. 'Cause low-key, I saw something about like Parker Posey having difficulty with the role because she's used to doing like Indies and she felt like she sold out going onto this one, but then Alan Cumming made her feel like better about it 'cause he's kind of like the same way. So that makes me feel like it was a sell out type of movie, which means... In my mind, we're like 100 million. But maybe that's not even a sell out type of price.

- Okay.

- See? 100's my lower one.

- The answer is 39 million.

- God dammit! I'm going way too high on all of these things.

- Yeah, I mean, if you're fighting for the budget, you'd be like, "I think we need 700 million." Exactly. We're not making a SpaceX shuttle.

- Exactly. Oh, but then at the end of the day-

- The budget was 39 million.

- Okay. Well, still more

- Yeah, I'm done.

- than "Nerve" though.

- On $100 million movie, you know the snack table is gonna be lit. It's gonna be like Welch's gummies, Gushers. The fruit snack situation on $100 million movie better be on top of its game.

- Absolutely certain. I'm sure they're like organic things that we've never even heard of too. Like some sort of, you know-

- Whole Foods baby.

- Some like Silicon Valley,

- Yeah.

- fresh out the pumping lines, new type of gummy.

- Yes, yes.

- Fresh out the pumping lines.

- Guess how much of that budget. What? Yes, fresh out the pumping lines. That's how you know it's the good shit. Fresh out the pumping lines.

- Like what am I saying?

- That's iconic.

- Iconic. Get me a T-shirt that says, "Fresh out the pumping lines."

- Okay, perfect. So we've secured the budget. Guess how much of that came from product placement?

- Okay, I know the answer to this, actually.

- It's a... Okay, go for it.

- I think. Yeah, it is a trick question. It's a trick question. Nothing, right? But I don't know the whole story behind each that.

- That's right.

- Yes. Yeah, no one. I think that that just basically probably means that they didn't get sued by anyone for showing their logos. I don't know. It's like, it goes both ways with that. I feel like it depends on like, who thinks they're getting more out of the deal if they're gonna sue you or let it fly or need to pay you or whatever.

- Yeah, I thought it was very interesting that there were no brands that paid to have their product placed in the videos or in the set. But then I thought about it more closely and it started to make sense. Like generally, they won't put brands or anything in the movie unless it's paid to be there because they don't wanna be endorsing a product for free or making an association to a product that isn't like legally agreed upon. And the brand is trying to protect their thing. Like they don't want their brand just thrown in whatever, but they also can't really stop like people from using their logo. Especially, I think if the logo is being used, according to the brand's guidelines, like they're not altering the logo in any way and they're not showing it in an unfavorable light. It's basically showing it throughout the movie in the way that you would see it in real life, like printed on packaging or on windows or on signs. So the brands can't really be like, "Well, you're doing something damaging to us." 'Cause like, "Well, we're just showing your product." No one's mentioning any brand really specifically, except for like MTV, like on the TV. So none of the products are being integrated into the story. So there's really no reason for the movie to have to even reach out to these brands to say like, "Oh, we're mentioning Pepsi exists." Like the world knows Pepsi exists. You can't argue that we're like damaging your brand, like by talking about a world known soda. So that's where I think it comes from, but I'm just speculating, so...

- That's pretty deep speculation. Yeah, I guess I thought about it a lot.

- Wow.

- At one point, I saw your eyes glaze over and I was like, "I think we're good with the logos." Jennay, for this next segment, I would like to test how well you know the music to the soundtrack of "Josie and the Pussycats." What do you think your score is gonna be on that?

- Oh my gosh. So I feel like it's gonna be in the middle, 'cause I know the general vibe of all of the songs, but do I know all of the lyrics? Questionable. Probably not.

- Was there ever a point in your life where you were just like repeating the soundtrack, listening to it

- Oh my God.

- outside of the movie?

- It was more recently than I'd like to admit, honestly, it's on my shower soundtrack .

- Yes. Such a good sour, shower, sour soundtrack.

- Sour soundtrack, baby. First, they're salty, then they're sweet.

- All of my showers are pretty sour because of the BO that gets activated by the steam. I'm just kidding. But I mean, that's life. I'm not really kidding.

- That's the life. That's pheromones, baby.

- Yeah, I soak it up. Soak it up. Soak up my sour shower and...

- Ooh, that's a new Axe body spray now, like watch out.

- Oh my God. Sour sport shower wash.

- The manly spray.

- Yeah, you're gonna make your man reek. Reek. Okay, so for this game, we're gonna play guess the lyrics.

- Ah, fuck.

- So sort of like the singing bee from hit television shows like Fox. I'm gonna sing the song, and then you're gonna finish the last lyric when I point to you, okay?

- Okay.

- Ready? This first one is from "Pretend to Be Nice." ♪ Well he looks at me with those innocent eyes ♪ ♪ and says, it looks like you're wearing ♪ ♪ some kind of disguise ♪ ♪ because your hair sticks up ♪ ♪ Your shoes are untied ♪

- And I'm tired of saying in the same stupid song. Something like that.

- Yeah, nice. I guess that's what it is. The real lyric is, ♪ I hope that you got that shirt on half price. ♪

- Okay.

- But that was good. She had something like that later. What did you say? You said something really similar.

- And I'm tired of hearing that same stupid song.

- And then second verse, she goes, ♪ and I'm tired of hearing his six stupid lies ♪ So that's what you were thinking of.

- Okay, there we go. Oh my gosh.

- So it's definitely buried in there.

- This is not my forte. This is what I told you. I know the vibe.

- No, I think I like the vibe. I want the vibe, so it's perfect. Okay, this next one. It's more like in every other line is gonna be you. So I'm gonna point to you.

- Oh, great.

- This is from, I can't remember the title, but you'll know it. I'm a punk rock prom queen. ♪ Brown paper magazine ♪ ♪ Hotter than you've ever seen ♪

- Everywhere and in-between. ♪ I'm a 10-second thrill ride. ♪ ♪ Don't you wanna come inside? ♪ I'm so fucking risque. They're like, "This is a kid's movie," I was like, "I counted at least 15 dirty jokes in this thing."

- I know. And there's to be on that too. But yeah, come inside, real fun. ♪ Five-star triple threat. ♪ ♪ Hardest at the hard to get. ♪ ♪ No one's little red Corvette. ♪

- You just don't impress me yet.

- Nice. Ain't seen nothing like me yet, but that was close. I always thought it was that until I read these lyrics, so maybe they were wrong.

- Yeah.

- Okay, one last one, because this is my favorite song from the soundtrack. And I do wanna know yours as well. But first this is from "Shapeshifter," which I was talking to the barista at Starbucks about this song today.

- Ooh. ♪ Shapeshifter, guest lister, big thinker ♪

- Don't you want to mess around with me?

- Yes. ♪ She'll turn around, you'll diss her ♪ ♪ Gatecrasher, rehasher ♪

- She's mashing those potatoes with me.

- Yes. ♪ No, if you think that's cool, whatever dude ♪ I loved that song as a kid because she says, "whatever, dude." I was like, "That's totally me." Like, "whatever boys," like, "whatever dude, I'm doing my own thing. I got two different Converses on."

- I feel like that was not one of the main songs in the movie. Was that like an end credit song?

- They played it during a montage of like, there's a few songs that they don't perform in the movie that are played like

- Right.

- while they're shopping and like while they're fighting. So yeah, that was like a montage song. But we listened to that

- Yeah.

- soundtrack again and again. When me and my sisters, we got the CD somehow, maybe it came with our DVD I think. And we were driving

- Love that.

- through Arizona. Like we flew to the Grand Canyon, and then we drove to like Sedona and other parts of Arizona for like cool resorts with water parks. It was fun. I got into this cool educational comic book series about the Grand Canyon at the time.

- Oh my God.

- And I was like, "I think I'm gonna make a movie based on these comic books." She was like, "Calm down, nerd." But anyway-

- I thought you were gonna say that you were gonna become like a Grand Canyon paleontologist.

- I should. Well, I think it was very telling in another way, because the name of the comic book series was called "Chasm," which is just like a big gaping crack. So it definitely knew what was up with my gayness for sure.

- Wow, it's beautiful.

- Yeah, poetic. Also, we listened to the song on repeat. So the, gate crasher, shapeshifter one, I was like, "Oh, so good." Before we move on to the next segment, Jennay, I wanna know what's your favorite song from the soundtrack.

- Okay, don't wanna hate on my girls 'cause I love all of the "Josie and the Pussycat" one's songs, even though, obviously, I didn't know "Shapeshifter" that well. But I think my favorite song is a DuJour song and it's "Backdoor Lover." Backdoor lover.

- DuJour.

- It's just how the whole movie opens. It's epic. They're on a fucking tarmac. They're like, "Come out of this private jet and do this concert." I feel like the comedy is on point with the editing during that 'cause they're like shooting different people in the crowd, they have like bride in the crowd, like, "Marco, marry me!" Just like

- You're so right.

- they get you right into it.

- I would have completely forgot to even mention DuJour. I'm so happy you said that because you're right. DuJour is the fictional band that goes down that allows Josie and the Pussycats to be discovered. DuJour catches onto the evil plan. And they're basically like an 'N Sync, Backstreet Boy rip off. That beginning is so perfect.

- So good.

- It's like the jet looks exactly like that Backstreet Boys or 'N Sync video, I don't remember which, but then the people-

- Oh, I didn't know this was a reference to something.

- Yeah, remember? I think it's Backstreet Boys. Remember, they're like dancing in front of the white plane. It looked very similar to that.

- Okay yeah, I'm thinking now, it's coming back to me.

- The girls like screaming at the camera was very TRL. Like the beginning of TRL.

- So good. No, even all of the people that were like random extras in this, like their faces are seared into my memory. They're iconic. And when you watch it on Amazon Prime, you know, it gives you the IMDb like who they are. The extras, their pictures are the picture of them from this movie 'cause that's like all they did.

- They're like, "That's all I'm known for."

- Like I wouldn't know them if I saw them in a supermarket, I feel like.

- Totally. If they had the stickers on their face in the right spot. Did it have their names?

- It did have their names, yeah. And it said, their characters name was like, "Laughing Girl," like, "Screaming Fan."

- You can just go to the movie. Like I was an extra in a movie and you can just go to the IMDb page for that and be like, "I was in that" and you can like list yourself as being in it. And so I'm glad when people do it, and then you can see their picture and you're like, "Oh my God, that is her," even if it was the only thing they ever did. It's so much fun, but-

- Oh my gosh. I'm just gonna like lie and say I was this blonde girl in the back of that movie.

- Yeah, I was in Titanic. I was so cold. The "Backdoor Lover" is the perfect song to open with because like, I did not get what that was talking about when I was a kid. It just goes over kids' heads.

- Right.

- But then, it just makes fun of itself 'cause it's making fun of the pop music industry right off the bat. And the whole cast is like, there were a lot of people in the cast of DuJour that were from the movie "Never Been Kissed," which shared a director, I think. Yeah, the director was the director of "Never Been Kissed." So like Donald Faison.

- Okay. Yeah, from "Clueless." I knew him from "Clueless" and Breckin Meyer

- Yep.

- was in "Clueless" with him.

- Exactly. Yeah, a lot of crossover.

- Love a good crossover.

- Me too. So Jennay, for this next part of the production of this movie, I need to start casting. I need to start filling some roles. Namely, the love interest, Alan M. And in this next thing, you're going to be auditioning for that role, okay?

- Oh my gosh.

- So I've given you the sides. You just do the highlighted ones and I will do the opposite. I'm playing Josie and you're playing Alan M. Are you ready?

- Okay, I'm highlights. I was low-key thinking as I watched this, that Alan M would be today if they remade it played by Bo Burnham.

- Oh, that's good, yeah. Well then, you're welcome to use that as motivation, but I don't know. The director might have notes for you. So let's just jump in, okay?

- Okay.

- I'll set the scene. So exterior, Josie is under the hood of Alan M's dilapidated truck, while Alan M strums his guitar.

- Josie did a bus carburetor, overload the alternator, jump in anytime.

- Abuse the accelerator.

- Nice.

- You can't drive this uphill when it's hot outside, I told you. You don't deserve a truck this good, you take it totally for granted.

- Taking my truck for granted, she says, "I'm taking my truck for granted." Jose, did you ever wanna tell someone something, but like, you're not sure if like you should, you know?

- Yeah.

- 'Cause like, you didn't know what their reaction might be or if it was the right thing to do.

- You should tell them, you should always tell them.

- 'Cause there's this guy at work and he just reeks, you know.

- A guy.

- Yeah.

- All right, I'm gonna stop you right here. The director just is in my ear and they think that they want us to try seeing this character from a foreign country.

- Oh God.

- Somewhere overseas. So do you have any accents? Actually, don't tell me, let's just take it from the next line, okay?

- Oh God . And of course, that's the first line, it's "oh God," anyway. Oh God, Josie. No, not just smelly. I'm talking like hot wet garbage on a sunny day. I think that... I'm just gonna switch the accent 'cause I don't know what that was. I think there's a problem. Oh, wait. I'm a man. This just really set me off the rails. I'm going back, I'm going backwards. Don't ever let anyone tell you. You can't come back kids. Oh God, no, Josie. No, not just smelly. I'm talking like hot wet garbage on a sunny day. I think there's a problem. It's like a stadium bathroom or something. No one seems to want to say anything about it. I know you would say something though, right? Yeah, see? That's what I love about you. We could just talk about stuff.

- That's what I'm looking for.

- That's so cool.

- Ah. I don't know why that ends with her saying, "Ah."

- Ah!

- Aah!

- Ah, ah, ah! She's like, "dick in here."

- She says, "Ah!"

- Oh my God.

- Josie.

- Josie.

- She overloaded my carburetor.

- I just got a call from the studio and the creators of "Josie and the Pussycat" actually have some issues with a few of the jokes in this movie. For example, the "Backdoor Lover." For example, the sexual references, the jokes that are perhaps... What are some other colorful jokes you remember from this? 'Cause I'm like, "This movie feels like a kid's movie to me now." But then I was watching and I was like, "Oh yeah, I guess that's bad." It is scary that they like seemingly murder the first band and like kidnap that goth girl. Like those things definitely seem dark

- Right, yes.

- to me as a child.

- Very dark. I feel like they made it feel light. But when I'm watching it back, I'm like, "Okay, this is actually very dark." They're basically like-

- Yeah, and like her parents are looking for her.

- Yeah, and then they're basically saying that every celebrity that's ever died, they killed.

- They showed Elvis' overdose headlines. And we're like, "we planned that," and it's like, "that's a lot."

- You've been here for a long time.

- Yeah. The government being a secret oppressor. I don't think they would talk about that anymore 'cause it feels too real. They would be like, "that's life."

- For sure. This was definitely like an early 2000s movie.

- Yeah, definitely. And it came out four months before 9/11, five months before 9/11. So it was a different world. Different world indeed.

- That definitely changes things.

- Yeah.

- That date set in my mind.

- So-

- It makes sense. This was like one of the last movies that we watched, like before we had like the first major trauma, like as a society, as children. So maybe that's why it stuck in our psyches so long. It's like a defining picture.

- Yeah. It would've been that last summer vacation before 9/11 happened, obviously in September of that year. How sad? 'Cause we would have been driving to Arizona and doing that whole thing, like the August of 2001. Oof.

- Oof.

- Discovering scars here on "The Faking Of," uncovering trauma.

- Oh my gosh. You can't fake those. You cannot fake the scars.

- Yeah, good podcasting.

- Unless you have a good makeup artist.

- You can't fake the... I can fake the scars.

- You actually can. One of the easiest things to fake.

- Yeah, I've done that. By the way, I don't think we've mentioned yet that people who are watching the video version of this can see our "Josie and the Pussycat" ears.

- We did, we mentioned it. 'Cause when you introduced to me, I was like, "Can't you tell?" I mean, you're like knowing

- Oh yeah.

- if they're listening. Oh yeah, right. Well, my ears are made out of a bubbly bounce box, which I feel is very on-brand, I cut.

- Yes, it literally looks like you bought the headphones with this. It looks so good.

- Thanks. I look exactly like this YouTuber called Def Noodles who like satirizes playing a Minecraft cat. So he has headphones with ears. So I'm like, "People are gonna think this is supposed to be that," but it's not, it's "Josie and the Pussycats." He's his own person. I'm not copying, I promise. Now I'm just drawing attention to it. No one is gonna think that.

- What do you think?

- I don't know. I don't know much about the internet anymore.

- I was gonna write it in the comments if you didn't say it.

- Yeah, I know how toxic you are gonna be out there coming for me. So I was gonna say the studio has some complaints on all of the sex and the romance. Yeah, so their solution

- Right.

- is in order to preserve, this is from my IMDb, in order to preserve the wholesome image of "Josie and the Pussycats," Archie Comics demanded there'd be a scene where Josie and the Pussycats were seen brushing their teeth.

- Do you remember that scene?

- I do, do you?

- No. Every time I hear teeth brushing seen, all I can think about is that scene in "Bring It On" with Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Metcalfe. Is that his name or whatever?

- Yeah, Metcalfe, I think. I hated that scene in "Bring It On." No, that's someone. That's John Tuckerman.

- That's someone else.

- Yeah. He's the Jesse something, I think though.

- Something or other.

- But that scene in "Bring It On" with the teeth brushing weirds me out for some reason. It's the first thing that made me self-conscious of spitting out.

- Yeah, because we're doing it so differently. Yeah, he's just has...

- He's not good and she's not good.

- And she has no spit. Like I feel like she was just like using a dry brush. She was just acting. That's why-

- She was gonna get a dry socket.

- Is that a thing?

- You know when you get wisdom teeth out?

- I don't have wisdom teeth actually.

- You were born without?

- I was born with Adam, like next stage evolution or something. I don't know.

- I had two extras that they had to remove.

- What?

- Like I had a fifth wisdom tooth removed a year or so after the first four. And then just a couple months ago in LA, I had a sixth one removed from back there, 'cause it was coming in. So I took some of yours.

- Yeah, you took mine.

- I don't know if I'm the evolutionarily advanced one or if you are.

- Yeah, I'm not sure. It depends on, I guess the society. Exactly.

- Equal, equal.

- He's telling us we don't need these.

- Yeah.

- I still have a baby tooth in my mouth too.

- I need all of the teeth that are extra because some of those gummy bears from Haribo are super chewy.

- Oh my gosh, don't eat the diet ones. You've read those reviews, right?

- Oh my gosh. Yes. Anything with artificial sugar like that, it's gonna kill all the flora in your stomach.

- Oh my gosh.

- Danger.

- Danger

- Okay, so here's some other facts. The brushing the teeth thing came in like the beginning.

- He was like in the montage.

- Montage at the beginning

- Okay.

- where it shows the girls doing good, wholesome things like that must all be

- Clearly, oh my gosh.

- from the comic book. Don't you think? Like it shows them I'm working at an animal shelter.

- Right, yeah. It's like giving the backstory that means donating later.

- Food. Yeah, like they were doing a food drive, and then throughout the movie, yeah, they seem like nice people, but they're never again, like, "let's donate money to the homeless."

- Right. Never helping the world. Also, in that montage, in the very beginning is one of the dirty jokes. Tara Reid is holding a sign that's like, "honk if you like rainbows, honk if you like peace." And then it says, "honk if you like pussy," and that's a car crash. But then she moves that says the Pussycats, she runs off like a wacky wavy inflatable tube guy. Why is she running like that?

- When that first happened, when I first saw that movie, I think is when me and my sisters were like, "Yup, this movie is fucking funny." Well, she runs away like that. It's exactly like in "Scary Movie"

- Yeah, yeah.

- when Anna Faris goes, "I'm not crazy." That's a perfect example

- Oh, God.

- of this movie getting dirty. And I think it shows

- Yes.

- how well they balanced it, so that it was like, you know, it's not like raunchy, hard comedy, but like, it still ages with the audience somewhat, 'cause as a kid, we loved it, and as an adult, we love it. Also as an adult, like a few months ago, I guess right before COVID like February before COVID, my sister just moved to LA and they were having a screening of this at this like restaurant/theater chain downtown with Rachael Leigh Cook, she plays Josie.

- Shut up.

- Visiting. So we got tickets. Me and my other friends, we got ears like that. It was gonna be the first thing that Melanie and I did in LA when she got there. So we showed up, drove downtown, had our ears. And they were like, "We moved it to you last Thursday or something. And we told everyone, but we didn't tell the people who got the tickets on Fandango, and you're the only ones

- What?

- who got tickets on Fandango." And we were like, "So it already happened?" And now we're just here.

- That hurts my heart.

- So we had to watch the "Parasite," which like most of them had already seen.

- That's such an opposite like-

- I know, it was such a disappoint. I mean, it was one of those things where I was like, "Well, I'm an adult, so I'm not gonna like pout over this," but definitely, I'm pissed. But they gave us our ticket for free, so whatever.

- Whatever.

- I don't even remember the name of that chain,

- God.

- so they can rot. They can rot.

- Yeah.

- Hopefully, they didn't make it through COVID. I'm just kidding.

- No free advertising for you, chain.

- Not you chain, you're an independent franchisee. And I hate you. Tell the Fandango people, "We're equal too." So this is another IMDb theme due to the level of profanity and adult themes. The family-friendly Archie Comics, which published the original "Josie and the Pussycats" stories would denounce the film and discourage people from seeing it.

- Oh my gosh.

- Strangely, many years later, the comics would not only be fined with, but also promote the television series "Riverdale" based on their Archie series in which features Josie, Melody, and Valerie as secondary characters, which arguably had much darker adult themes in the storylines in this movie. Again, that's right from IMDb.

- Well, joke's on you, studio. Because the only reason I would wanna watch "Riverdale" is for the "Josie and the Pussycat" characters. I didn't know they were on it. And now I kinda wanna see who plays them.

- Yeah, like I'm interested in that, especially if they do music, like if they have a music scene, then obviously, that's the only thing I'm gonna look up on YouTube and they need to have... Yeah, I don't care about "Riverdale." How else am I gonna know Archie Comics from the wrappers on Bazooka Gum? Like that's the only reason I knew stupid Archie anyway. So the fact that they denounced this film makes me mad. And I bet you they don't anymore because they did like a 16th anniversary thing where I think a lot of this commentary comes from, but hopefully, they're embracing it now. I mean-

- You think? I mean, how much did it make back? So that its budget was 39. What did it gross?

- That's a very good question. And we're gonna get there. But while we're talking about the budget, I just wanna first come back to the fact that none of the money came from the product placement. Do you think that that's fair to brands?

- Yeah, fuck them. Those are huge brands.

- Okay.

- My gosh.

- I'm glad you feel that way because we're about to have a phone call, where you're the producer who's like just putting these logos in, and I'm a brand owner who really wants to get my stuff in there, but you're not gonna let me, so...

- Hello?

- Hi, hi, this is Roger Stanner from a small business here in the local Florida area. Do you work for the movie studio?

- Yes, this is Betsy Steelhead.

- Betsy Steelhead. Yes, I found your number in my Rolodex that I stole from somebody. So I was so excited to get in contact with you. I hear you're producing a movie based on the iconic characters featured in the Archie Comics. Is that true?

- Yeah, you seemed to know a lot about me. I'm getting actually a little nervous.

- Listen, don't worry about that, Betsy, okay? Nothing I've done is illegal so far, okay?

- I mean, you're from Florida, that's already a red flag for me.

- Yeah, it's hot over here. There are big crickets, but what can you do? Here's the deal. Betsy, we're not here to talk about the crickets in Florida and you know it, okay?

- No.

- I have a product that-

- I'm here to talk about the crickets in Florida actually.

- Well, that's perfect. Because I'm selling a product that I think the world needs to see. And I think that your movie would be the perfect place to introduce my product to the world. What do you say? Paid partnership?

- Oof, so-

- You pay me to put the product in the movie is the deal I'm proposing.

- Ooh! We're not looking for small brands here. We're looking for big kahunas, if you know what I'm talking about.

- Well, what's a big kahuna brand to you?

- Well, so a big kahuna brand is something that like, you know, it hurts you to look at.

- Okay.

- You can smell it. Like I'm just thinking about Golden Arches right now and I can smell the French fries. Like that's a big brand.

- That's perfect because we've gotten the feedback many times from people that when they see our logo, they become sick. So it sounds like we're working in the same thing. We might not be McDonald's, but we are a disgusting business and-

- You are poisoning the masses in a way. So you are similar

- Yeah.

- to McDonald's.

- You wanna hear what our product is?

- I mean, at this point, you had me on the phone this long. I'm curious, what's it do with the crickets?

- Well, first of all, tell me a little bit more about yourself. What's your favorite color?

- Oh, mahogany.

- So these are mahogany crickets, just so happens, and we've trained them. What's your favorite sport?

- Ooh, curling.

- We've trained these mahogany crickets to curl and they're on their way to the Olympics. So our product is actually a network of tutoring centers where it's sort of like Kumon learning centers, except for cricket training, so families and friends, whoever, politicians, celebrity endorsers, like "Josie and the Pussycats." They come by our centers with their pet crickets. They have to bring their own. I suggest the garden or like looking in the grass, but they bring the crickets and we train them to curl. Also, we like kinda paint them mahogany to like match the colors. So what do you think?

- If you'll excuse me, I think I'm gonna be sick.

- See? The idea, it does trigger a lot of nausea for a lot of people. And that's normal because crickets, the sound, the way they crunch when you eat them, it's a lot. But you said you love it. So what do you think? We got a deal? We got our cricket? What's your favorite sounding word?

- I really like pumpernickel.

- So our business is called lumpernickel cricket training. And what would you say about getting that lumpernickel logo in the background on some of these "Josie and the Pussycats" scenes?

- Lumpernickel cricket has such a ring to it. Not gonna lie, I like the way my mouth goes up and down, when I say it. It's a rollercoaster of a word, but you'll have to pay us to be in here.

- All right.

- We can maybe put you on the back of something.

- Name your price, name your price, but don't go over like three boxes of crickets.

- Okay. Yeah, I'm not gonna go over three boxes of crickets. I'm gonna go just the three.

- You got it, you got it. Betsy, it's been such a pleasure working with you. I think this is gonna be an amazing partnership and don't forget to bring your cricket family by someday. And we're excited to teach them how to curl, okay?

- Betsey Steelhead signing out.

- Betsy Steelhead, it's been great, buh, buh-bye, buh-bye.

- Buh-bye, forgot your name, Bill Stringwater.

- I think something. Yeah, Beckham.

- It's like Roger Stadler.

- Roger Stadler or something like that. Don't worry about it, I'll send you the invoice and it'll have my info there. Bye, Betsy.

- Perfect. I'll see it in your Gmail. My people signed. Okay, bye.

- Whoops.

- He would hang up on her.

- He's just done. He's got the deal, he's out.

- She's trying to get in the information, trying to like figure out where does she tell him the address and he's gone.

- We got crickets. Oh my God. I think he's a really good negotiator.

- He is. I'm just really bad at saying no to people.

- Yeah, you're getting fired.

- It should be noted, I'm from Florida. So no offense.

- Oh, yeah, absolutely.

- So that was a red flag.

- I knew that when you said it, so that's why...

- It's a red flag for sure. Speaking as a red flag herself.

- I knew it was okay. No, Florida has a really good reputation in the United States.

- Oh yeah, epicenter.

- Yeah.

- So fun. Just so cute. Epcot's the epicenter.

- Yeah, the Delta variant lives within the orb in Epcot. It's a big incubator.

- Oh my God. I would not doubt it. We're getting seen by Disney now though.

- Never.

- That's the one brand they probably couldn't put in there without getting sued, if they tried to put fucking Disney in there. Do you think they would've?

- Yeah, I think they drew the line at any movie studios. They were like, "If it's not part of the movie studio that we are, we don't need to show that."

- Yeah.

- Also, I do not need Disney on my ass, like every other review I do is a Disney channel movie. So we love Disney and Epcot.

- We love them. Oh my God.

- Their Epcot orb is filled with pure, fresh Clorox bleach.

- The hand sanitizer that smells like tequila.

- Yes, it's just magic glitter hand sanitizer for your children, and it's safe. Jennay, it's time to talk. The movie has been made. We produced it, we cast it. We got some calls from the studio on the way, but now it's time for the premiere and the worldwide gross of this movie. I'm wondering,

- Ooh, been waiting for this.

- based on how big of a movie this is to us in our lives, do you think that this was a financial success or more of a flop? Meaning, did they make their budget back?

- Right. I think they have now made their budget back plus some, but I think initially, it was probably like a slowish rise.

- Okay, so if-

- But also the fact that I had the DVD, not knowing anything about any of this, makes me think maybe it was actually a hit,

- So why don't you-

- but initially, I wanna say like opening weekend how much do I think it made.

- Yeah, sure. So like what percentage of your budget do you think it made back

- Okay.

- in its opening weekend?

- Opening weekend. I think it maybe made back like, budget was 39, I don't know, like 20% or something.

- Okay, so they made... The worldwide gross, they're not even just the opening weekend, but pretty much, it's like the worldwide gross was 14,866,000. So 14.8 out of 39.

- Okay, I'm not sure the math on that.

- Let me ask Siri.

- 'Cause that's what I was thinking.

- What's 14.8 divided by 39? So it made back 38% of its budget.

- Okay.

- That's a flop.

- I was like, "You go, Josie, you go."

- Yeah.

- To me, that sound great. 'Cause you know the-

- 38% of its budget?

- Well, but then eventually, it's a cult classic.

- Yeah.

- It's like, you know, those types of movies, it's not like a blockbuster. It's meant to be a cult classic, I think.

- It was a cult classic for sure. I think they wanted it to be a financial hit probably. Like they probably would've done-

- You're right. They probably wanted more money or like their budget back. Usually, like that's how you know. If a movie doesn't make its budget back, there is no sequel, there is no continuation of that property. Like who knows if this had made 100 million in its first weekend, or at least made its budget back, then maybe they would've done a sequel or like continued this franchise, like done a PG-13 adult comedies based on the Archie properties. Like that would have been interesting and gotten other Archie people. The same way "Riverdale" now does, which I've never seen, but I guess the kids love it.

- I guess so.

- I don't get it. Gen Z and millennials. I feel like "Riverdale" was out when I was in college, when we were in college and now it's still is.

- I don't even know when it came out. I feel like I completely like missed this whole radar thing.

- Yeah.

- And just like in the past four years was like, 'cause I used to teach high school kids and they would always talk about it. I was like, "What the heck?"

- So yeah. I have a lot of curiosities about that, but I also have other questions about the movie.

- About them letting me into a school.

- Yeah, I have a lot of questions about you teaching kids. What questions do you have lingering from this movie?

- Okay, so first question. What does DuJour mean to you? 'Cause throughout the movie, they said DuJour means a friendship, hygiene, seatbelts, family, teamwork, and crash positions.

- Yeah, DuJour

- What does DuJour mean to you?

- means seatbelt was so good. To me, DuJour, I think DuJour means family. I think they already said that, but I feel like I related most to that one because I felt like, when I think of the band DuJour, I think of them being funny and on that plane and like when they made up with their fight after, at the beginning, they would seem like really close friends. And I was like, "Oh, they remind me of like, K-pop idols, where they're just sort of like thrown together to like produce content. But you know, they're having this once in a lifetime experience together," I'm over intellectualizing it.

- I love that it took you there, you know?

- Yeah.

- That's what families all about. It's going deep into your mind.

- What does it mean to you?

- To me, I feel like it's none of those things that they said, though it's all of those things. DuJour, it's like the universe, it's like the all-encompassing, like nature of mankind and it's genius, and its potential, its possibilities.

- Yeah.

- And it's, you know, the ability for people to create such beautiful things like music and art, but then also to like use it for such things as buying and you know, selling stuff and it's all a plan.

- Wow, that's really nice. Yeah, like they stand for the idea that like art can be commercial and still be valid. Did I make that up? Is that not what you're saying?

- No, I didn't even think of it that way. I'm like, "Okay, yes. DuJour means like the paradox of it all. DuJour is the paradox

- Oh, sure.

- of it all. Like DuJour is the oxymoron.

- That's very well said. And I also love like, "I didn't get this layer until I was much older." DuJour, meaning of the day, like soup du jour. So like they're the band DuJour, 'cause they're literally in one day

- Yes.

- and out the next.

- Exactly, you can just pick them up. I loved that when they died, it was like, "You're not dying," but whatever went missing, it was like 2000 to 2001 on the TV screen.

- Yeah. And I also noticed a hilarious joke on that. Like so "MTV News" comes on and the lady is like, "DuJour has gone missing and we're not sure if there are any survivors. The record company has yet to release a statement. Although there is a commemorative box set being released tomorrow, commemorating the entire life and career of DuJour." Before they even have a statement, they have a box that are ready to go out, commemorating their lives. I was like, "I didn't get that at first." But that's funny.

- So true. Yeah, that was funny and like funny 'cause it's true type of way.

- Yeah, exactly.

- That's like humorous.

- CNN really has like the obituary videos ready to go for like all of the presidents.

- Yeah. Oh my God. They're like, "A minute they turned 50, you make that real."

- Yeah.

- What was my other thing? I had a couple other things. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. This wasn't the IMDb. Sorry, I peeked a little at some of the IMDBs when I was trying to figure out what movie to do.

- No problem.

- And this one was saying, when Carson Daly and Tara Reid met, they were like, "Oh, I'm a Scorpio, I'm a cancer." And like they were saying their real Zodiac signs or whatever, which led me to think like who is your big three "Josie and the Pussycats" characters? And if you don't know, like that's the thing that the kids do on TikTok, where it's like your big three is your sun, moon and your rising? And I think my big three is, I'm a Fiona sun. That's Parker Posey. I'm a Val moon, that's Rosario Dawson. And I'm a Mel rising, that's Tara Reid. And I can completely explain that, but like, hopefully, I don't need to. I feel like, you know...

- No, no, I get it.

- It feels right. Oh, and then I went to Alan M. Venus. As I was watching it, I was like, "He's my Venus. It's like your Venus is like your loved one." I'm like, "I'm an Alan M. Venus."

- Okay. Let me make sure that I'm understanding all the signs, right? So the what's the first one? The...

- So sun is like-

- So like sun is like the main one, like I'm a tourist, right?

- Right, right, right. So it's like, yeah, you're...

- You're the one that I relate to most is-

- I think your like overarching identity.

- I really feel Josie. Main character syndrome. Main character syndrome.

- Love it.

- Okay.

- Like Leo vibes. Okay, moon is like your like secret, like sort of when your mask is off, like who you are behind closed doors.

- Valerie, definitely.

- Okay, that's why we're friends 'cause we're both

- Yay.

- the Valerie moon.

- Vulnerable and honest.

- Nice, yes, I love it. And yeah, but also like has a tough side that she's like, "I'll fight for my friendships," and like, "Fuck this."

- Fair and just, yeah.

- Yes. She's like has a fire underneath her a little bit too. Like she can be sensitive, but she can also be like...

- Protective, yeah.

- Yes.

- And like knows when to cut people off. Knows when something's toxic to be like, "You've changed."

- Right, right. Yes, she like looks out for herself still, as much as she loves other people's feelings. She also tries to let herself the same.

- Yeah.

- Also, the rising is I guess, I mean, I don't know enough about astrology. I feel it's just kinda funny.

- It's like coming up. It's like sort of that too.

- Yeah, it's like, I've seen things that say like, "Oh, maybe in your next life, you will be this sign."

- Okay.

- Yeah, it's your tendencies.

- I think I'm a Fiona rising,

- Yes.

- where it's like, I feel like I'm an old soul who's lived a lot of lives. So eventually, I'm gonna be like, so power hungry and manipulative.

- The master of it all.

- Yeah, yeah. But really, I would never beat someone to death with a bat type of way, I think. 'Cause I'll always have too much Valerie and Josie.

- Right.

- I have that determination to be like, "The system is what it is, I'm going to try to succeed in it."

- Well, and her whole like motivation at the end of it all is it's like inner child is what's guiding her, which I think is like

- Yes.

- a cute sort of thing in a weird way. But it's like to be in touch with your inner child, I think is a thing to be celebrated depending on how long you stay in touch with it.

- Yeah, I think you're right. There's also this redemption with her where it's like, "Oh, she's this way because she was hurt as a young person." And I think that's relatable. It's like, we all have to heal from our traumas to make sure they don't ruin it. Relationships.

- Ruin those relationships, baby.

- Okay, so if you were a reviewer, Jennay, what would you rate this movie? And you get to choose the rating system.

- Ooh, ooh. I feel like we have to rate it cat ears

- Yes.

- for this one. And I give it a stadium full of cat ears and also some cat ears at home, and Carson Daly bought two. I don't know if you remember that part. But he's like, "You gotta get your cat ears." "I know I got two of them."

- Yeah, he's like, "I know I bought two." I was like, "why?"

- So funny. And he's like beat up.

- Perfect. So a stadium full of cat ears plus some at home, plus two.

- And plus some at home. Yes.

- I'm gonna rate it nine out of seven pussycats. No, wait, nine out of seven, nine out of 10. What happened there?

- Off the charts, these cats having babies.

- I've decided I don't even want my rating system to make sense. No, eight and a half out of 10 pussycats just because I feel like there was one or two outdated jokes in there that I was like, "Oh, they could probably revise," but-

- But I would be so mad if they made a remake of this. I feel like,

- No, please don't.

- I would be very upset. I'd like the way that it stayed in. If I wrote down some other things that are like, "Oh, this is funny," that they said.

- What?

- Mr. Moviephone being the subliminal message voice. I was like, "Do kids even know what Mr. Moviephone is anymore?"

- They must not. But I love when they're like, "We found out subliminal messaging works better in movies. 'Josie and the Pussycats' is the best movie ever."

- Oh yeah, join the army.

- Yes, yes. It's that one underneath it. So good. I love sight gags like that.

- Yeah, yeah. Another one when he was trying to sign them or something and they're like, "Oh yes, it says that like bands that have, and do better," whatever, whatever. They'd make some joke about the Beastie Boys. And they're like, "But they're huge stars." It's like, well,

- Yeah.

- I don't know where they've been for a couple of years.

- Yeah, the Beastie Boys being huge stars. I remember just yesterday being like, I mean, okay. Were they that big in 2001? I guess.

- I was like, "That can't be the band that they're selecting for this. They were definitely not the biggest." It would have been hilarious

- Yeah.

- if they chose like Nickelback 'cause they were really

- Yeah.

- big in 2001.

- Yeah.

- And it would be such a funny meme, a joke.

- Some of the things they predicted did age well, there was a thing where it was like a headline and it said, "Barry Moore, Diaz and Liu set to play

- Yes.

- Josie and the girls in a movie." And it's like, they shot that before "Charlie's Angels" came out, so it was like basically predicting "Charlie's Angels."

- Oh wow.

- And the editor was the same. The editor of "Charlie's Angels" did "Josie and the Pussycats."

- Oh my gosh, inside information.

- IMDb, baby. He was putting a Easter egg into one of his other movies he was working on at the time. And I just thought it was perfect. 'Cause it's like, we know those three names are iconic as "Charlie's Angels." So the joke ages forever 'cause you're like, "Oh, it's like, 'Charlie's Angels' we're gonna play."

- Yeah. I low-key probably would actually watch that remake with them playing them.

- Oh yeah.

- Oh my God, I spoke too soon. If in movie world like kept true to itself and it was like, did that,

- Right.

- that would be sick. And you don't see a lot of sequels that do that where they do like a spinoff movie in a way, where it's like,

- Yeah.

- "Let's just dive into like this television show that was in the middle of like this other thing that we were watching."

- Yeah, I want like better versions of things, not gender swapped versions of it, or like CW versions of it. Like they're doing "The Powerpuff Girls," I'm like, "Just make it a better movie."

- Ugh, the worst outfits ever. It's like, you had such an opportunity to make this-

- They reshot that.

- Okay, thank God. The internet was like, "We're not okay with this!"

- They said that something came out on entertainment, so people who don't know, there were like these set photos from "The Powerpuff Girls" CW show, pilot that was shooting. And they looked like Halloween costumes and everyone was reading them on Twitter. But they've since come out and said, "We reshot the whole pilot, it was not working." "We rewrote it 'cause it was dumb." So who knows what we're gonna see if ever?

- Oh my gosh.

- Was there anything else from the movie that lingered in your mind?

- Let's see. Okay, one thing I thought was super weird was Carson Daly was like the first name in the credits. Did you notice that?

- Oh, no. What's that about?

- It was like producer, like second unit or something, and then it was like Carson Daly and the other guy that was playing fake Carson Daly,

- Aries Spears

- and then it said cast and had the rest of the cast. It was like, "what?"

- Oh, maybe like, 'cause they were cameos.

- 'Cause they weren't casts.

- Maybe this was like MTV Studios and they like gave those parts 'cause Aries Spears was from MADtv. And I think that was Viacom as well. And Carson Daly's obviously royalty at Viacom. So maybe they were just like, "guest star!" So you get the guest star billing, like you're not a part

- Yes, you get like first bill.

- of the main cast.

- Right, okay, that makes sense.

- That's weird though. Hollywood has weird stuff

- It was just so strange.

- like that. Yeah. I think there was something weird like that, where it's like, "You're not a union cast member, you're playing yourself." So it's like a featured role or something.

- Love it. Oh, another thing that I thought was insane was for the longest time I've had this little tune stuck in my head and I couldn't figure out where it was from. And I was like, always searching on the internet, like news opening tune, 'cause the tune was like. And then I watched this and that's what they do in the beginning scene. It's like, they're weird, like little- Yes, I was like, "That's where that sound is from?"

- It's so catchy, that little rhythm. And he's like, "Am I doing your face? Is this a good face? I hate to be doing your face." Like that old thing.

- "Just wanna get a new face." And the bloopers,

- Yeah.

- he's like, "You know I'm almost dead."

- Yeah. I love the bloopers. I was like,

- So good.

- "This movie was fun."

- I know. Just put the bloopers at the end. It warms my heart seeing people have fun. I want to have fun.

- Yeah.

- I wanna laugh.

- And when I watched these bloopers, I'm always thinking how that's like a couple funny moments throughout a 12-hour day of boring shits.

- Right, exactly.

- It makes me laugh. Like, when they show the bloopers at the cast party, when you work on a movie, it's always like so funny. 'Cause it's like, "Ah, we did have fun," you know?

- Yeah, you need to remind yourself.

- The whole time, yeah.

- All those wrinkles are worth it.

- Yeah, exactly. That's what I love about... Jennay, by the way, is someone who I've brought onto set when I was like working as a makeup artist, I'd be like, "Jennay, be my assistant," and we would go to shoot. Jennay's worked as a PA on big movies with big names as well. So she shared my love

- Yes.

- of behind the scenes content, which is why I'm so glad that you were my inaugural guest here on "The Faking Of."

- I know. You know, we made a web series and making another web series.

- Tell me where we can find all of that.

- The most recent one is called "Call Center." It's on Vimeo. Oh, it's probably easier to go like through the Instagram, which is @callcenterseries and-

- And I'll put the links in the description to this YouTube video.

- All right. And then MaxiPad Productions is our like silly little comedy thingy. Who knows? Who knows?

- Perfect.

- Jennay Say Qua, I don't know what.

- Yeah, where can we follow you?

- On the internet, on Instagram, wherever. Jennay Say What on Instagram or Jennay Say Qua.

- I've had such a blast getting into the behind the scenes goodness of this classic movie. Thank you for picking the best movie you could have possibly picked. I had so much fun watching this, and then reliving it with you.

- It's so good. It literally cured my hangover today, watching this. I was like, "This movie is like a warm blanket on a cold rainy day."

- It did that for me too, yesterday, when I was watching it. I thought I was gonna like, not like watching this, but I was like dancing around with the numbers to it, so-

- I rocked out so fucking hard, I was headbanging, singing the songs.

- Yeah.

- But obviously, didn't know the lyrics too, neither the sound titles.

- Yeah, we were thinking of them that well, I guess.

- The performance is there, okay?

- Yeah. The vibe is right.

- The vibe was there.

- Jennay, thank you so much for being my guest. I love you so much. We have to have you back

- Yay.

- on very soon to keep exploring other movies from your life.

- Oh yeah, let's get inside my brain.

- Thank you so much everybody for listening to "The Faking Of," and don't forget to like, subscribe and comment to let others know that you love this podcast. You guys are all the greatest. Thank you so much and we will see you next week.

- Whoo!

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